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# Hobby or Business? How the IRS Looks at a Ranch

**Short answer:** The IRS asks one question: do you run the ranch to make a profit? If you do, you can deduct the ordinary and necessary expenses of the farming business on Schedule F. If you don't, the income goes on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), and you can no longer deduct the expenses of carrying on the activity. There's no single test. All the facts are taken into account, and no one factor alone is decisive. A ranch that produced a profit in at least 3 of the last 5 tax years (2 of the last 7 for horse breeding, training, showing or racing) is presumed to be carried on for profit, unless the IRS shows otherwise. No entity, form or single step settles the question on its own. Ask your CPA how your ranch's facts line up.

### 1. The question the IRS asks: are you ranching to make a profit?

Unless noted, the rules below come from Publication 225 (2025), the IRS *Farmer's Tax Guide*.

- **For profit:** if you operate a farm for profit, you can deduct all the ordinary and necessary expenses of the farming business on Schedule F.
- **Not for profit:** if you don't carry on your farming activity to make a profit, you report the income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040). You can no longer deduct the expenses of carrying on the activity, even if you itemize on Schedule A. Expenses for a hobby, or for things done mainly for sport or recreation, cannot be deducted.
- **Now permanent:** For 2018 through 2025, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspended miscellaneous itemized deductions. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (P.L. 119-21, sec. 70110) made that permanent for tax years beginning after 2025 (26 U.S.C. 67(h)). Publication 225 (2025) still shows the old end date.
- **What stays deductible:** deductions you can take for personal as well as business activities "are allowed in full." For individuals, that includes home mortgage interest, taxes, and casualty losses from a federally declared disaster.
- **The IRS definitions:** the IRS FAQ says a hobby is an activity not done for profit, including activities done mainly for sport, recreation, or pleasure. A business activity is one engaged in for profit.
- **The law:** the rules come from section 183 of the Internal Revenue Code, *Activities not engaged in for profit*.

### 2. The nine factors the IRS weighs

Treasury Regulation section 1.183-2(b) lists nine factors, including whether you keep complete and accurate books and records, your financial status, and elements of personal pleasure or recreation. All the facts count, and no one factor decides the question. The nine factors are:

1. How you carry on the activity, including whether you keep complete and accurate books and records.
2. Your expertise, or your advisors'.
3. The time and effort you spend on it.
4. Whether you expect the assets you use, such as land, to go up in value.
5. Your success in other activities, similar or not.
6. Your history of income or losses from the activity.
7. The amount of any occasional profits.
8. Your financial status.
9. Elements of personal pleasure or recreation.

On factor 8, the regulation says: "Substantial income from sources other than the activity (particularly if the losses from the activity generate substantial tax benefits) may indicate that the activity is not engaged in for profit especially if there are personal or recreational elements involved." It also says that not having substantial income or capital from other sources may point toward a profit motive. Publication 225 gives a farm version of the same list, and the IRS FAQ points to this regulation.

IRS fact sheet FS-2022-38 puts some of the factors as questions that fit a ranch. Are the losses because of things beyond your control, like drought, disease, fire, theft, weather damages or depressed market conditions? Do the losses continue beyond the period which would be necessary to bring the activity into profitable status? Do you intend to profit from appreciation in the value of assets, such as land, used in the activity?

These are the facts the IRS looks at. They aren't a checklist, and meeting some of them doesn't make a ranch a business on its own.

### 3. If the ranch sits alongside a high-paying career

Some ranch owners also earn a salary or run another business. That alone doesn't decide anything, since no one factor does. But two points matter in that setup. First, factor 8: substantial income from other sources may indicate that the activity is not engaged in for profit, especially when there are personal or recreational elements. Second, FS-2022-38 says that if taxpayers aren't trying to make a profit, "they can't use a loss from the activity to offset other income." These are the facts the IRS weighs more closely, and a good reason to have the setup reviewed. Even when the ranch is a business, other IRS limits apply to its losses, in a set order. See [Can a Ranch Loss Offset Your W-2 Income? The IRS Limits That Apply, in Order](https://go.deepyield.com/learn/ranch-loss-and-w2-income?hsLang=en).

### 4. The presumption of profit: 3 of 5 years (2 of 7 for horses)

Publication 225 sets out the presumption this way.

- **The test:** your farming activity is presumed carried on for profit if it produced a profit in at least 3 of the last 5 tax years, including the current year.
- **Horses:** activities that consist primarily of breeding, training, showing, or racing horses are presumed carried on for profit if they produced a profit in at least 2 of the last 7 tax years, including the current year.
- **What counts as a profit year:** you have a profit when the gross income from the activity is more than the deductions for it. The activity must be substantially the same for each year within the period.
- **What the presumption does:** if the activity passes the test, it's presumed carried on for profit and the not-for-profit limits don't apply. You can rely on the presumption unless the IRS shows it isn't valid.
- **If you don't meet the test:** you may still be considered to operate your farm for profit by considering the factors listed above.

### 5. Form 5213: postponing the determination

- **What it is:** Form 5213 is used to elect to postpone an IRS determination as to whether the presumption applies that an activity is engaged in for profit.
- **What it does:** if you're starting out and don't yet have 3 (or 2) years showing a profit, filing it postpones any determination that your farming activity isn't carried on for profit until 5 (or 7) years have passed since you first started farming.
- **When it's filed:** within 3 years after the due date of your return (determined without extensions) for the year you first carried on the activity. If you get a written IRS notice proposing to disallow deductions from the activity, and that comes earlier, it must be filed within 60 days after you receive it.
- **Joint returns:** if you file jointly, both spouses must elect, even if only one of you is engaged in the activity.
- **When it can't be used:** it can't be used once the activity has run more than 5 years (or 7 for horse breeding, training, showing or racing).
- **What comes with it:** filing automatically extends the period of limitations on any year in the 5-year (or 7-year) period to 2 years after the due date of the return (determined without extensions) for the last year of the period. The extension covers the activity's deductions and related ones, such as medical or charitable deductions that change with adjusted gross income. And if you don't have 3 (or 2) years of profit, and can't otherwise show that you operated your farm for profit, the limit applies retroactively to any year in the period with a loss.

Whether filing Form 5213 fits your ranch is a question for your CPA.

### 6. Entities don't settle the question

- **Partnerships and S corporations:** if a partnership or S corporation carries on a not-for-profit activity, the limits apply at the partnership or S corporation level. They're reflected in the partners' or shareholders' distributive shares.
- **LLCs:** the Form 5213 instructions list limited liability companies treated as partnerships among those that can file it.

The IRS weighs how the activity is carried on. Ask your CPA before assuming that any entity, election or other step changes how ranch expenses are treated.

### 7. Records that tie to these rules

Records don't make a ranch a business. They show the facts the IRS takes into account.

- Complete and accurate books and records for the ranch.
- Each year's gross income and deductions for the ranch (that's how a profit year is defined for the presumption).
- Notes on the time and effort you put into the ranch.
- Changes you made to your methods of operation to try to improve profitability, and when.
- The knowledge you and your advisors bring: study of the business, and advice from experts you followed.
- Losses from things beyond your control, such as drought, disease, fire, theft, weather damage or depressed markets, with what happened and when.
- If Form 5213 was filed: a copy (its instructions say to keep one for your records) and the year you first carried on the activity.

### Where DeepYield fits

DeepYield is a second set of eyes, not a replacement for your CPA. A free two-year look-back is a review of your last two years of returns, done for you. For a ranch, that includes how the ranch's income and expenses were reported and what the return shows about the activity year by year. If you also have income from a career or another business, it includes how the ranch sits next to that income on the return. We go looking for what's missing, and we share what we see with you and your CPA. We don't assume any structure or step makes an expense deductible; that depends on your facts and the IRS rules. Sometimes the review ends with nothing to change.

Related: [Year-End Tax Planning for Farmers and Ranchers](https://go.deepyield.com/learn/year-end-tax-planning-for-farmers?hsLang=en) · [Tax Planning for High-Income Earners](https://go.deepyield.com/learn/tax-planning-for-high-income-earners?hsLang=en)

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## Frequently asked questions

### Is my ranch a business or a hobby for tax purposes?

It turns on whether you run the ranch to make a profit. All the facts are taken into account, and no one factor alone is decisive. Treasury Regulation section 1.183-2(b) lists nine factors. They include how you carry on the activity, including your books and records; the time and effort you spend; your history of income or losses; your financial status; and elements of personal pleasure or recreation. Your CPA can walk through how your ranch's facts line up.

### Can I deduct ranch expenses if the ranch is treated as a hobby?

Not the expenses of running it. Publication 225 (2025) says that if you don't carry on your farming activity to make a profit, you report the income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040). You can no longer deduct the expenses of carrying on the activity, even if you itemize on Schedule A. For 2018 through 2025, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspended miscellaneous itemized deductions. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (P.L. 119-21, sec. 70110) made that permanent for tax years beginning after 2025 (26 U.S.C. 67(h)). Deductions you could take anyway, such as home mortgage interest, taxes and casualty losses from a federally declared disaster, are still allowed in full.

### I have a high-paying job. Does that make my ranch a hobby?

Not by itself. No one factor decides the question. Your financial status is one of the nine factors in the regulation. It says substantial income from other sources may indicate that an activity is not engaged in for profit, especially if there are personal or recreational elements. IRS fact sheet FS-2022-38 adds that if you aren't trying to make a profit, you can't use a loss from the activity to offset other income. Those are good reasons to have the setup reviewed when a ranch sits alongside a high-paying career.

### What is the 3-out-of-5-year rule for a ranch?

It's the presumption of profit. Publication 225 says your farming activity is presumed carried on for profit if it produced a profit in at least 3 of the last 5 tax years, including the current year. You have a profit when the gross income from the activity is more than the deductions for it, and the activity must be substantially the same for each year in the period. The presumption holds unless the IRS shows it isn't valid.

### Is the rule different for horses?

Yes. Activities that consist primarily of breeding, training, showing, or racing horses are presumed carried on for profit if they produced a profit in at least 2 of the last 7 tax years, including the current year.

### Does putting the ranch in an LLC change whether it's a hobby?

Not by itself. If a partnership or S corporation carries on a not-for-profit activity, the limits apply at the partnership or S corporation level. They're reflected in the partners' or shareholders' distributive shares. The Form 5213 instructions name limited liability companies treated as partnerships among those that can file it. What the IRS weighs is how the activity is carried on, not the entity.

### What is Form 5213?

It's the form you file to choose to postpone the IRS determination of whether the profit presumption applies. It postpones that determination until 5 (or 7, for horse activities) years have passed since you first started farming. It must be filed within 3 years after the due date of your return (determined without extensions) for the year you first carried on the activity. If you get a written IRS notice proposing to disallow deductions from the activity, and that comes earlier, it must be filed within 60 days after you receive it. On a joint return, both spouses must elect. It can't be used once the activity has run more than 5 years (or 7 for horse breeding, training, showing or racing). Filing also extends the period of limitations for the years in the period. If the profit years don't come and you can't otherwise show a profit motive, the limit applies retroactively to any loss year in the period. Whether it fits is a question for your CPA.

### What if the ranch loses money because of drought or disease?

The IRS weighs it with everything else. Publication 225 lists losses due to circumstances beyond your control, or normal in the start-up phase of farming, as one factor. IRS fact sheet FS-2022-38 names drought, disease, fire, theft, weather damages and depressed market conditions as examples of things beyond a taxpayer's control. No one factor alone is decisive.

## Sources

- IRS Publication 225, *Farmer's Tax Guide* (2025) (chapter 4, Not-for-Profit Farming: the factors, Presumption of profit, Using the presumption later, Limit on deductions and losses (Category 1), Partnerships and S corporations): [https://www.irs.gov/publications/p225](https://www.irs.gov/publications/p225)
- Treasury Regulation 26 CFR 1.183-2, *Activity not engaged in for profit defined* (paragraph (b), the nine relevant factors; eCFR): [https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-26/section-1.183-2](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-26/section-1.183-2)
- 26 U.S.C. § 67, *2-percent floor on miscellaneous itemized deductions* (subsection (h), as amended by P.L. 119-21 sec. 70110, July 4, 2025; statute text and notes, Legal Information Institute): [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/67](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/67)
- IRS FAQ, *How do you distinguish between a business and a hobby?* (Small business, self-employed, other business \> Income & expenses): [https://www.irs.gov/faqs/small-business-self-employed-other-business/income-expenses/income-expenses](https://www.irs.gov/faqs/small-business-self-employed-other-business/income-expenses/income-expenses)
- IRS Fact Sheet FS-2022-38, *Know the difference between a hobby and a business* (October 2022): [https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/know-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business](https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/know-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business)
- About Form 5213, *Election to Postpone Determination As To Whether the Presumption Applies That an Activity is Engaged in for Profit*: [https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-5213](https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-5213)
- Form 5213 (Rev. February 2006) and its instructions (Who Should File; Joint Returns; When To File; Automatic Extension of Period of Limitations; Keep a copy for your records): [https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5213.pdf](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5213.pdf)
- 26 U.S.C. § 183, *Activities not engaged in for profit* (statute text, Legal Information Institute): [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/183](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/183)

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